Only 10 IP in free version - not enough - Will it be raised? - Page 2

BarryG · #11 (**permalink**) 11-17-2008, 08:58 PM

FWIW, I just asked the same question last week, to a host a friend is using. That's where the $35/month figure is coming from.

Barry

CJL · #12 (**permalink**) 11-18-2008, 05:15 PM

The number of IP addresses behind a home router is simply not a valid measure of home use any longer. Astaro will hopefully come up with something different.

1 Satellite TV Receiver
3 Nintendo DS Lite
1 Playstation
1 iPod Touch
3 Macs
1 PC
1 laptop
Email reminder daily that I'm at 11.
Occasional guests = overage

And the girls aren't even teens yet. I can see adding smart digital photo frames, NAS, maybe a home server and who knows what else in the future.

fredde · #13 (**permalink**) 11-19-2008, 07:57 AM

and while you are at it also enable possibility to have a couple of vlans

then i´d have a go with astaro again.

EDIT1: noticed this when login into myastaro
Concurrent Connections: 1000

so basicly you cant run torrents with astaro.. i really think it´s time to look over the "home user license"

or maby they just dont want us, but then who will do the testing for them?
/F

felix_clerc · #14 (**permalink**) 11-19-2008, 11:17 AM

I think that the 2 above posts point out what I was thinking when starting this thread: 10 IP adresses are very quickly reached, even at home. Funny, chances are that you use less IP adresses in a small office...
Regarding the concurrent connections limit, I didn't saw that at first, but it's another stopper.
Now regarding why I do have a reverse proxy and multiple web sites, the answer is quite simple. I use vmware server, and those machines are free. The reverse proxy allows me to redirect traffic based on headers, which means each web server only host 1 site, which is easier to configure, allow to swap one vm with another to replace it without impacting the others and so on.
And why do I do it at home? Well, to learn how all that stuff work, and to host private sites, used mainly by my family to gather/exchange photos.
The point is that I live in France, and I have a permanet access with 1Mb upload and 8Mb download, international phone calls included for 30 Euros per month - this is about 37 dollars.
So, the point seems clear: the 10 IP limit is overkill. Hope astaro will change this... In the mean time, I'm back using smoothwall, and testing endian...

stoner · #15 (**permalink**) 11-19-2008, 01:14 PM

I have to agree, that the times are changing fast. Verizon FiOS uses IP to deliver its on-demand, guide and system updates to the subscriber set top boxes and, for instance, I have 7 boxes each requiring an IP address. Add to that a PS3, Apple TV, 2 desktop computers and a couple of laptops and you can see that 10 IP’s are not enough. In the near future we will have refrigerators and other appliances that will send e-mails of their status to the owner or Service Company pulse all the other consumer electronics such as digital music players, picture frames, weather stations, etc. that are (or will be) using IPs. I for one would be willing to pas for a “professional” version that allows for additional IPs.

BAlfson · #16 (**permalink**) 11-19-2008, 03:09 PM

It seems to me that there are many of the items described above are ones that gain little from being behind an Astaro; for example, just the NATting being done by the cable/DSL router would be adequate for the Verizon FiOS or any future refrigerators.

Why not arrange your network so the servers and PCs that can benefit from proxies are the only ones behind the Astaro? I realize that doesn't address the limit of 1000 connections for Bittorrent, but given the limit of your pipe, is that really a problem?

Having said that, I do want to urge Astaro to change the methodology used to limit the number of users. I had a warehouse prospect where there were three PCs, one networked printer and a dozen VoIP phones; we couldn't compete using either the ASG120 or a software appliance. Given that situation and the other situations described on this thread, something other than a simple, global IP count should be used to "size" Astaro.

One possible solution would be to move the IP-count-incrementation to the proxies. That is a better measure of the actual number of users in today's world.

Cheers - Bob

felix_clerc · #17 (**permalink**) 11-19-2008, 03:20 PM

Arranging the network is not always an easy task...
Actually, I do have a server connected straight to the net without any router nor firewall, but with a bridged network card on the Wan side of my Astaro VM.
Changing this means adding a router, and cabling everything back to it. Actually, I have sometimes 1 cable going to the server location, and a switch where my sat receiver, multimedia player and gaming consoles are.
If I need to add a second switch and duplicate the wires accross the house, plus add new box where my server is sitting, I bet my wife will kill me...
And I'm sure I'm not the only one in this situation ;-)
I definitely think Astaro should review this limitation - not that I want more than what's in a professional firewall, just that this is currently too restrictive...

mierwins · #18 (**permalink**) 11-19-2008, 04:55 PM

Would anyone else be up for a $99 lifetime home use license with 25 IPs and unlimited connections?

Just a thought!

BAlfson · #19 (**permalink**) 11-19-2008, 05:20 PM

Mierwins, that would eliminate most of the very-small-businesses as customers and prospects. For many larger businesses, this would allow them to equip smaller offices for $99 forever.

I have been working on an account for a year where we have an ASG120 in their main office and will be installing ASG110s in 20+ remote offices. There is no way I would have invested the time I have if I weren't expecting to generate thousands of dollars in income. Your suggestion would allow the customer to use some old PCs with $99 licenses for their needs, and I would be left with no compensation for my efforts.

I just can't see Astaro giving up that recurring income to allow a few home users to push the technology envelope... I certainly HOPE they don't, for our sake!

A different solution is needed.

Cheers - Bob

BarryG · #20 (**permalink**) 11-19-2008, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredde

and while you are at it also enable possibility to have a couple of vlans

Astaro does support VLAN trunking.

Quote:

EDIT1: noticed this when login into myastaro
Concurrent Connections: 1000

so basicly you cant run torrents with astaro.. i really think it´s time to look over the "home user license"

I was running Azureus and eMule simultaneously on a standard home user license.
Set the max connections in your clients to about 200 and you'll be fine.

Barry