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Old 11-20-2008, 07:09 AM
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[QUOTE=BarryG;98996]Astaro does support VLAN trunking.
Ohh, from what i remembered it was not included in home license, but thatīs nice then

Barry: I was running Azureus and eMule simultaneously on a standard home user license.
Set the max connections in your clients to about 200 and you'll be fine.

Yea, i have a 100/10 connection and i wanna use a fraction of it because i have a fw that restrics the use of it *irony*

iīm not saying that astaro is doing wrong, i understand that they cant let it be totaly free
But itīs not really up to me to come up with a solution eather.

If i "cant" run it at home then i wont..iīm sure they will survive without me

But as the license works now it cind of rejects the ppl they want to have running at home ie several servers running mulitple vlans, mail server and so on, sure my granny wouldent hit the roof with astaro but then again..would she be of any use??

my 2 cents.

/Fredde
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Old 11-28-2008, 09:17 PM
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Mierwins, that would eliminate most of the very-small-businesses as customers and prospects. For many larger businesses, this would allow them to equip smaller offices for $99 forever.

I just can't see Astaro giving up that recurring income to allow a few home users to push the technology envelope... I certainly HOPE they don't, for our sake!

A different solution is needed.

Cheers - Bob
If it was a $99/lifetime HOME USE license, then they would be in violation. There's nothing but honor stopping businesses from using the current home use licenses instead of ASG 110s as it is. Many, many satellite offices would never come close to touching the 1000 concurrent connection limit.

I, personally, find the IP address limitation far more burdensome than the concurrent connection limit.

I would certainly be willing to buy a $99 one-time license if it would get the concurrent IP addresses to 25 or 50. I'd probably be willing to go $99/year.

Maybe I'll get lucky and they'll do another beta tester license carrot.
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Old 11-29-2008, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: Only 10 IP in free version - not enough - Will it be raised?

Hi,

I, personally, find the IP address limitation far more burdensome than the concurrent connection limit.I would certainly be willing to buy a $99 one-time license if it would get the concurrent IP addresses to 19 or 25. I'd probably be willing to go $80/year.
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Old 11-29-2008, 12:26 PM
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Unhappy Another home user way over the 10 IP limit

I've got what I consider to be a pretty typical 'geek' set up:

2 IP printers
3 desktops
2 laptops
1 server
1 media center
2 Tivo's
1 DVR
1 iPhone
2 AP's

This has me way over the 10 IP limit. I've been playing with Untangle to see how workable a solution that would be, and frankly it's a dog compared to ASG. Untangle on Ubuntu takes about as much work to set up as configuring the individual open source tools themselves on a standard distro.

While Astaro is more mature and easier to configure, I just have too many IP's at home and can't see the number getting any smaller....
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Old 11-29-2008, 01:36 PM
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and while you are at it also enable possibility to have a couple of vlans

then iīd have a go with astaro again.

EDIT1: noticed this when login into myastaro
Concurrent Connections: 1000

so basicly you cant run torrents with astaro.. i really think itīs time to look over the "home user license"

or maby they just dont want us, but then who will do the testing for them?
/F
how do you figure being unable to run torrents? I run torrents all the time with astaro here at my place w/o isue.
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Old 11-29-2008, 01:37 PM
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The number of IP addresses behind a home router is simply not a valid measure of home use any longer. Astaro will hopefully come up with something different.

1 Satellite TV Receiver
3 Nintendo DS Lite
1 Playstation
1 iPod Touch
3 Macs
1 PC
1 laptop
Email reminder daily that I'm at 11.
Occasional guests = overage

And the girls aren't even teens yet. I can see adding smart digital photo frames, NAS, maybe a home server and who knows what else in the future.
first off don't have astaro do dhcp. Secondly anything that doesn't need the inet i don't put in a gateway(aka like my wireless printers..they really don't need the inet) among other things. If you REALLY can't live within the 10 ip bounds there's other products up there..
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Old 11-29-2008, 01:43 PM
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Mierwins, that would eliminate most of the very-small-businesses as customers and prospects. For many larger businesses, this would allow them to equip smaller offices for $99 forever.

I have been working on an account for a year where we have an ASG120 in their main office and will be installing ASG110s in 20+ remote offices. There is no way I would have invested the time I have if I weren't expecting to generate thousands of dollars in income. Your suggestion would allow the customer to use some old PCs with $99 licenses for their needs, and I would be left with no compensation for my efforts.

I just can't see Astaro giving up that recurring income to allow a few home users to push the technology envelope... I certainly HOPE they don't, for our sake!

A different solution is needed.

Cheers - Bob
Astaro isn't geared towards the home user..and it's their business solution. If you have to have more than 10 ip's i would look at ipcop, or untangle. For most of my home clients that stay under 10 i use astaro..for anyone else i use untangle. For businesses it dpends on the amount of $$$ they are willing to spend on a firewall package..
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Old 11-29-2008, 01:44 PM
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I've got what I consider to be a pretty typical 'geek' set up:

2 IP printers
3 desktops
2 laptops
1 server
1 media center
2 Tivo's
1 DVR
1 iPhone
2 AP's

This has me way over the 10 IP limit. I've been playing with Untangle to see how workable a solution that would be, and frankly it's a dog compared to ASG. Untangle on Ubuntu takes about as much work to set up as configuring the individual open source tools themselves on a standard distro.

While Astaro is more mature and easier to configure, I just have too many IP's at home and can't see the number getting any smaller....
don't have the astaro do dhcp and for the printers and ap's take out the gateway addresses..that'll net you 4 more ip's..
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Old 11-29-2008, 06:17 PM
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first off don't have astaro do dhcp. Secondly anything that doesn't need the inet i don't put in a gateway(aka like my wireless printers..they really don't need the inet) among other things. If you REALLY can't live within the 10 ip bounds there's other products up there..
I have. I did not list the three wireless access points, the IP camera, or a few other devices for which I assign static addresses and no default gateway so the ASG doesn't count them.

I know there are other products out there. But, I like the Astaro. Lobbying for a change to the 10-IP limitation is another solution, which is what we're doing.

It's simply not a valid measure of home use. They need to come up with something different.

Whatever they come up with doesn't have to be free. But to solve my problem I have to go to a 120 or 25-User Software and while I might be able to stomach the initial hardware purchase (which would suck after dropping a few hundies into a 1GB C7 with 3 NICs just to run the home version), Gold Maintenance, Web Security, and Email Security subscriptions are simply too expensive for a home router.

There's a gaping hole in Astaro's licensing between the free home use router and the 120/25-user software offering for those who only need more than 10-IPs.

Last edited by CJL; 11-29-2008 at 06:20 PM.
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Old 11-29-2008, 11:04 PM
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It's going to fall on deaf ears...this is a business product and they aren't going to cut into that revenue anymore than they already are especially with the economy heading into a downturn..

for clients that more than 10 ips i set them up with untangle.
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