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06-17-2009, 03:55 PM
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[ASG 7.304] Timeouts in Webadmin; machine overloaded?
Hello,
I have one Astaro, running ASG v7.403. It's a normal desktop-pc with a Pentium 4 (3,2 GHz), and 3 GB RAM (currently, about 35% RAM in use). (single harddrive, no RAID) It never swaps. Nevertheless, it looks like it's sometimes overloaded.
Occasionally, I get the message Do you want the current request to be aborted? When that happens, the WebAdmin shows a cpu-load of more than 90%.
I started an ssh-session and launched "atop". Which sometimes shows the CPU-loads in red.
Here's an overview of the configuration: - This machine has been running since 2005 (or longer)
- 5 physical network interfaces
- almost no remote users (only admins) normally not more than 2 admins logged in at the same time.
- 988 host definitions, 245 service definitions
- 161 packet filter rules
- 2 active Masquerading rules, 31 active NAT rules
- IPS active with 4140 of 7059 patterns
- Watching 1 local network with about 250 nodes
- Anti-DoS/Flooding active: "Use TCP SYN Flood Protection" only
- Anti-Portscan active, action: drop traffic, limit logging
- 11 HTTP Servers, 3 DNS server and 3 SMTP servers registered under IPS / Advanced
- No modified IPS rules
- SMTP proxy active, but no anti-virus or anti-spam. All mails (if any) are cached and forwarded to another machine for filtering. Normally, the dashboard shows: "0 emails processed".
- Web proxy active. 7 HTTP/S profiles + default profile
- VoIP and IM/P2P-Security is off.
- 3 IPSec Site2site VPN-connections, no SSL Site2site-VPN
- 171 local users (used mainly for PPTP-VPN); normally never more than 5 concurrent PPTP-connections
- IPSec VPN, OpenVPN and PPTP deamon log are transmitted to remote syslog server
Statistics for today shows: (it's 16:25 now, working hours are almost over for most employees) - 53 600 packets filtered
- 4 100 URLs filtered; 287 475 http-requests served today
Is that too much for this machine?
What could I do to substantially reduce the load on the server?
I have 75 packet filter rules for the VPN-users to make sure they can only reach those machines which are needed. Of course, everything else is blocked. Would it help to create some groups under Users / Groups and use these groups for the packet filter rules? I estimate that I could reduce the 75 rules to 25.
If anybody has some more ideas, I'd really appreciate that.
Would it help to replace the normal harddrive with a RAID 0?
Or do I need a faster server?
Hon.
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06-17-2009, 06:36 PM
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On the 'Global' tab of 'Intrusion Protection' what do you have in 'Local networks'?
The next time you get a heavy load, SSH into the box, run top and touch M< (uppercase "m" then shift ",") to have the busiest process listed at the top.
Cheers - Bob
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Last edited by BAlfson; 06-17-2009 at 11:03 PM.
Reason: BarryG caught me goofing up again! (see next post)
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06-17-2009, 10:33 PM
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M sorts by memory usage.
Barry
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Home & business end-user since v1.x - ASL 6.3x, HP DL145 Dual Opteron, 1GB RAM, 6 gigE NICs, 50-IP Platinum License
- ASL 7.3x, Dell PE1550 Dual PIII 1GHz, 1GB RAM, 2 NICs, 50-IP Platinum License
- ASL 7.5x, 17-watt fanless mini-ITX system: MSI IM-945GSE-A Atom n270, 2GB RAM, Morex T3310 case. 2 Intel GigE, 3 VLANs. 80G 5200rpm 2.5" HD
Netgear GS108T gigE VLAN switch & Linksys WRT54G WAP
Total network infrastructure: 27 watts. 100-IP Home User. FiOS 10mb/2mb
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06-18-2009, 01:39 AM
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Special shortcut by bob, m for memory and then < to move it one field over for cpu but all that matters is that it works
Last edited by Billybob; 06-18-2009 at 02:06 AM.
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06-18-2009, 09:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BAlfson
On the 'Global' tab of 'Intrusion Protection' what do you have in 'Local networks'?
The next time you get a heavy load, SSH into the box, run top and touch M< (uppercase "m" then shift ",") to have the busiest process listed at the top.
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I just learned something new!  In top, you can type "O" (capital o) to get a "sort-order-menu". Then type "k" + [Return] to sort by cpu-usage. But that's the default sort order anyway, so there's no need to do that 
Well, "M" + "<" doesn't seem to work for me.
The network watched by IPS is the network of the "Internal" interface. It's a Class B network but there are only about 250 nodes in it. OTOH, there are thousands of nodes in other locations of our company so sometimes, there's a lot of traffic to watch over ...
[Update] O.k., now the cpu is sweating again and top says mdw_daemon.ply and confd.plx are each eating more than 40%. All I did was delete some (about 10) network-definitions and changed some comments. But that's more than 2 hours ago. There are no other ASG-admins logged in WebAdmin right now and the "w" and "who" commands say there's nobody logged in on this machine than me.
Hon
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06-18-2009, 01:39 PM
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It doesn't seem possible that the CPU load was caused by what you did two hours earlier. I'll be interested to learn what Astaro says is the fix for this.
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06-22-2009, 11:32 AM
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Update: I've found something else: Uptime of this machine is 8 days. I started top and sorted by CPU-time. It says:
Code:
660:06 mdw_daemon.plx
92:52 acc-agent.plx
81:06 dns-resolver.pl
57:30 snort_inline
47:14 confd.plx
44:20 aua_edirsync.pl
29:49 selfmonng.plx
19:34 syslog-ng
18:59 ulogd
12:21 confd.plx
11:10 httpproxy
I'll contact our Astaro-support. But I'd appreciate if some other Astaro-admins told me how much CPU-time your Astaros are using for "mdw_daemon.plx" and how many definitions you have.
Hon.
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06-22-2009, 09:30 PM
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7.402, up 13 days, not many definitions, not using proxies except SOCKS, LOTS of P2P traffic:
649:37.64 afcd
311:48.95 snort_inline
135:30.79 selfmonng.plx
35:31.98 ulogd
32:08.89 smtpd.bin
12:39.13 dns-resolver.pl
9:18.73 postgres
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0:47.69 mdw_daemon.plx
CPU is 1.6GHz single core Atom with HT on.
Barry
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Home & business end-user since v1.x - ASL 6.3x, HP DL145 Dual Opteron, 1GB RAM, 6 gigE NICs, 50-IP Platinum License
- ASL 7.3x, Dell PE1550 Dual PIII 1GHz, 1GB RAM, 2 NICs, 50-IP Platinum License
- ASL 7.5x, 17-watt fanless mini-ITX system: MSI IM-945GSE-A Atom n270, 2GB RAM, Morex T3310 case. 2 Intel GigE, 3 VLANs. 80G 5200rpm 2.5" HD
Netgear GS108T gigE VLAN switch & Linksys WRT54G WAP
Total network infrastructure: 27 watts. 100-IP Home User. FiOS 10mb/2mb
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