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Old 06-24-2009, 06:54 PM
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The current release version in 7.403 is 2.6.16.62-110.

tmbm50, what version are you running?
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:06 AM
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The current release version in 7.403 is 2.6.16.62-110.
That's weird the kernel version on my ASG v7.403 is 2.6.16.62-111.
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:23 AM
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I just double checked, and my appliances running 7.403 are -110, but my software boxes are -111. It looks like the appliance ISO is versioned differently than the software ISO.
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:20 PM
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Would the software kernel not need different hardware support overall? Maybe extra driver support that isn't used on the ASG appliance where the specific drivers for the hardware are all known as both the ISO installs are different sizes overall?
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:31 PM
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On an ASG 320 appliance I have the .111

Despite Astaro policy of releasing source code for major versions it's a violation of the GPL. If they are distributing the code, they need to provide the source code when requested.

So, without trying to sound too harsh...come on Astaro...please post this kernel version.

Thank you,
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:57 PM
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TMBM50, this venue is for Astaro users; Astaro folks sometimes come here to help us, but this is not a recognized forum for communication with Astaro. You work for or are a reseller. You should have better connections to get the information you need.

Frankly, your truculence is unwelcome as far as I'm concerned, and I'll be happy to ban you and the IPs of your company if you won't play nicely with us here.

If you have problems we can help with or solutions to offer to us, we will welcome your participation.
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:22 PM
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Bob, IMHO, you're being harsh.
I don't think tmbm50 is being unreasonable or rude, and his intrepretation of the GPL is correct.
Since Astaro distributes software freely on the internet, they need to freely provide the (current) source upon request, without having to go through a reseller.

He originally asked "Does anybody know who I email at astaro for the kernel source for 2.6.16.62-111-default?"

No one has replied with a contact at Astaro.

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Old 06-25-2009, 08:42 PM
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Although I agree with you barry, but from Gert's answer and looking at the GPL folder on ftp.astaro.com it looks like they only release the kernel/sources with every major release and then tweak/fix without the source code being available for minor versions. I browsed through the /lib/modules folder on my astaro firewall, but ofcourse they wouldn't put kernel sources on a production firewall

On the other hand, I feel bob's frustration also. People have answered to the best of their abilities about the availability of source code. If tmbm50 found the time to search for this board, I am sure he could have found the contact information on astaro website Astaro Internet Security - Contact Form
So it could be interpreted in any way tmbm50 sees fit but the next gpl release of source code would come with the release of astaro 7.5
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Old 06-26-2009, 02:02 PM
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Should you feel it necessary to ban me and my ISP, that is your call. I'm not starting a flame here and this will be my last post on the subject, but if you consider the phrase "come on Astaro...please post this kernel version" to be harsh, well I'm not sure what to tell you. Seems like a straight forward but polite statement too me.

I have been around this forum long enough to know that it heavily frequented by Astaro personal. So yes, this is a user forum, but we all know Astaro hangs around here. And as you will see in the original thread, I was hoping for community support on what is a "community" issue.

I have contacted the reseller and sent numerous inquires through the Astaro contact us page. No one answers. So I post it in the forums knowing that Astaro at least can not deny seeing the request.

Astaro IS violating the GPL by not making the source of currently shipping device available. I guess the community and the company or ok with letting that quietly go unnoticed.




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TMBM50, this venue is for Astaro users; Astaro folks sometimes come here to help us, but this is not a recognized forum for communication with Astaro. You work for or are a reseller. You should have better connections to get the information you need.

Frankly, your truculence is unwelcome as far as I'm concerned, and I'll be happy to ban you and the IPs of your company if you won't play nicely with us here.

If you have problems we can help with or solutions to offer to us, we will welcome your participation.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:50 PM
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tmbm50 has a point. Astaro should stick to the GPL.

I have the feeling Astaro only release it for major versions, since it IS heavily modified and separating out their custom code is probably painful.

I've been told in the past that the GPL portion of the code is almost useless without the bits Astaro have written though.

tmbm50, can't you wait for the next released GPL code, or use an older version?
Astaro, can you publish your GPL code release policy?
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